On That Day

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  1. Joe C. says:

    Never thought of Rev 20 that way. And inspiring and fearsome message indeed…

    Are not all men at the judgement of Rev 20? My understanding from the plain wording would be that all men must stand before the judgment seat of Christ. Perhaps I just misunderstood Pastor Washer’s implication, but he made it sound like a judgment for only unbelievers.

    But I understand that even I must appear before that seat, to be judged according to what I’ve done, to account for every idle word, so that God may be vindicated and that Grace shall be truly graceful when I see how pathetic I truly am, in all my horrible abyssmal depths. And how great God truly is to save me, such a wretched sinner.

    Surely our Lord shall be vindicated on that day. No man can speak against His books.

    Joe C

  2. I believe Revelation 20 refers to the unbelievers only. Verse 12 says, “the dead were judged… according to their works.” And again in verse 13, “they were judged every man according to their works.” The only people who are judged according to their works (sin), in regards to salvation, will be those who would attempt to attain salvations by any means outside of Christ, i.e. those who have not believed in Him. “whoever believers in him will not be put to shame.” (1 Peter 2:6)

    That said, I do believe we will be judged according to what we do. But, this judgment would determine our reward, not our salvation – which was a gift. “So then each of us will give an account of himself to God.” (Romans 14:12)

    “Now if anyone builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw– each one’s work will become manifest, for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed by fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done. If the work that anyone has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a reward. If anyone’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire.” (1 Corinthians 3:12-15)

  3. Joe C. says:

    I see what you’re saying. Although, Rev 20 seems to be indicating potentiality to be found in the book of life. It seems to imply some will be found in the book of life at this judgment, so that implies believers are there, it’s a big “IF anyone’s name…”. A shaky foundation of ‘implication’, but I can’t discount it.

    But the first ressurection HAS taken place, which is for believers, and it’s the “dead” that are standing before the throne, those from ‘hades’. So I’ll concede the point, it’s a stronger position b/c the believers would already be reigning with Christ.

    But then, what do you make of the parable of the sheep and goat judgment? Do we take that as only a rough metaphor to convey a point, or do we take that as a ‘literal’ point by point metaphor of what actually will happen, and if that is the case, can we say Rev. 20 being for all humanity matches with that?

    I’m willing to concede that parables in Scripture are rough stories meant to get a main point across like “be ready”, “be faithful”, “Christ is the only way”, which I know runs a bit contrary to modern eschatalogical interpretation which relies heavily on said parables. But I’m not sure that the sheep and goat judgment is a parable at all, it doesn’t have the same construct. But Jesus won’t literally be judging sheep and goats, haha, so that’s something to be figured out. What do you think? Do you believe in multiple judgements of all the world? That would be a more dispensationalist view of eschatology, right? What do you think Ben?

    Joe


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