Did God Save You to Serve?

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6 Responses to “Did God Save You to Serve?”

  1. Joe C. says:

    Paul Washer is gifted. But I do take a sidebar to him saying “one is slavery, and one is sonship”. How many times are we mentioned as slaves of God, and slaves of Christ? If we’re not a slave to Him, we’re a slave to sin, or Satan. So yes, we are slaves, and we are servants of God, and we’re called to serve. He’s making a difference here that doesn’t really exist in Scripture. We’re saved for all of these things. Sonship, Worship, Service, Deeds, ultimately to do what? Bring Glory to God. That’s the whole sum of it.

    But brother Washer is right, God doesn’t need our help. But He still uses us anyways, how wonderful!

    Joe

  2. Stubo says:

    Yeah, I picked that up too.

    I have no problem with being a slave for God. What an honour! And Romans does say that we are to be slaves to righteousness.

    But I get Washer’s point. Christ freed us for Himself so we could be called His brothers and sisters. Out of that, comes deeds. And as Paul said, there is a difference in the order you put it.

  3. Wilmo says:

    My two cents (take it or leave it):

    Galatians 3:26-4:7

    You are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus, for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.

    What I am saying is that as long as the heir is a child, he is no different from a slave, although he owns the whole estate. He is subject to guardians and trustees until the time set by his father. So also, when we were children, we were in slavery under the basic principles of the world. But when the time had fully come, God sent his Son, born of a woman, born under law, to redeem those under law, that we might receive the full rights of sons. Because you are sons, God sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, the Spirit who calls out, “Abba, Father.” So you are no longer a slave, but a son; and since you are a son, God has made you also an heir.

    By God’s rich grace and mercy we ARE sons of God. But we are STILL children. We do not recieve our inheritance this side of death, because we are still children. We are no different to a slave at the moment.

    But having said that, we are not to see service as the be all and end all. That is not what we were saved for. We were adopted so that in the future we would have the same rights as Sons of God. That is what we must be striving for.

    I think that’s the important distance. A slave works to earn his masters favour so that he may get some small part of it as reward. A child works to earn his Father’s wealth because he knows one day it will be his.

    As I said, take it or leave it. God bless

  4. Joe C. says:

    Wilmo, I think you missed my point. I think you need to re read my post. We are slaves of God. We are children. And we are called sons. Service is not our end all be all, and I didn’t say it was. I said…

    “We’re saved for all of these things. Sonship, Worship, Service, Deeds, ultimately to do what? Bring Glory to God. That’s the whole sum of it.”

    The end result is Glory to God. We’re saved for His Glory. Paul Washer even preached a sermon on this. And more importantly, Scripture is explicit on this matter. I don’t think I need to remind anyone.

    I’ll ‘take it’. I agree with you, but do not misunderstand me. God Bless.

    Joe

  5. Wilmo says:

    I’m sorry. But I don’t think my post was leveled at you. Just my 2 cents from listening to what Paul had to say :)

    Sorry if you felt it was aimed at you!

    As my side not though; I don’t know how much you can tell about someone’s life experience from the way they preach, but if I were to take a stab from what he’s saying here…

    His experience of Christianity growing up was that it was seen as joyless and about serving God (much like in the Anglican church). And I think that is why he stresses Sonship so much, because in that you find joy and you find a desire to serve rather than just a cold command.

    I do not believe his point was neccessarily to say that we are not slaves but sons… I just think his life experience has shown him that people feel like slaves because they don’t have the hope of sons.

    Again that’s just something I think, so you can take it or leave it :)

  6. Joe C. says:

    Oh okay Wilmo, good insight. I think you could be right about where Pastor Washer is coming from. Yeah, I wasn’t sure if your post was leveled at me or not, but on the chance it was (guess not) I wanted to make sure I wasn’t misunderstood.

    I guess the point I wanted to make is that Sonship is just another facet and point of salvation, as much as slavery and service to God is, as much as Worship is, as much as eternal contentment, etc etc. But ultimately all of these are expressly for His Glory. That’s what I feel the ‘end all’ of our salvation is. God’s Glory.

    “Soli deo gloria”, eh?

    Good stuff guys.

    Joe


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