Forsake Not The Assembling

July 25th, 2010 | 18 Comments | Church Issues Forsake Not The Assembling |  Facebook

John Owen | By God’s all-wise appointment, our assemblies are the food and the nourishment of our souls. It is the main way whereby we publicly identify with Christ and His Gospel. We evidence our love for Christ by our loyalty and support of one another in opposition to all false worship. Many things will rise up in competition to the diligent attendance of our assemblies. We must recognize and refuse to give into anything that is opposed to what Christ commands. The total falling away of a graceless professor always begins with this neglect, this disassociation with God’s people.

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18 Responses to “Forsake Not The Assembling”

  1. Bill says:

    There are many examples of godly men separating themselves from the assembly at various times throughout the history of the bible during periods of apostasy. Elijah is one such example. Should a man continue to assemble in an apostate, unbiblical church? I think not. For a good witness one should separate for there are many who assemble today in Churches that believe in evolution thus downplaying the role of our Creator in creation, that believe in unity at the cost Biblical doctrine(these guys are great for trying to make a Christian to feel guilty about not going to church), that believe not in a Millenial Kingdom, that believe in making merchandise of the brethren by making them tithe, that believe that Arminism,, that romish, scourge of unbiblical doctrine that the brethren tried so hard in centuries past to oppose, which caused so much fierce debate, that makes God the lacky of man, has all but in most churches replaced the biblical doctrine of calvinism. To drive by and see church notice boards displaying cooking classes, belly dancing classes, clever human wit and not one word of Holy Scripture. To make man’s salvation dependent upon ones church attendence and not the grace of God is pure folly and nothing that has not been bandied around before to apply pressure by guilt and fear of losing salvation because of a lack of man’s work in the form of church attendence. It is salvation by works. Ones salvation is dependent on your church attendence. Nothing could be further from the truth and the person who has stated this does not know the true grace of God. By grace are ye saved by faith and that not of yourselves! A true Christian’s walk/works does NOT affect his salvation. A true Christian’s walk will however determine how much his loving Father will correct him, so if one wants to avoid the rod of correction from the Lord it is wise for him to walk wisely and avoid unnecessary grief. Is it a good thing to go to church. Most definately. Is it good to go to a church where what is taught from the pulpit is not what is taught from the Bible. Most definately NO!

  2. Bill says:

    A good apple amongst amongst a box full of spoiled apples will sooner spoil rather than turn all of the bad apples good. That is why the voice in Revelation 18:4 shouts:

    4And I heard another voice from Heaven, saying, “Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues; 5for her sins have reached unto Heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.

    “That ye be not partakers of her sins” The sins of an apostate church.

  3. Bill says:

    Search the poem on google “the loneliness of a Christian”. I could not believe it when I read it. It was if I penned the words myself and I am sure I am not the only one who feels like this.

  4. Ben Davis says:

    Hi Bill, I don’t think anyone is suggesting that the command in Hebrews: “Do not neglect to meet together, as is the habit of some…” (Heb. 10:25), is a command to attend bad churches, or that people are saved by church attendance…

  5. Petra says:

    My husband and I found a very biblical church after having been rescued from a very bad church. God is faithful and cannot go back on His own Word. Was it a struggle to go back to church? You bet!!! It was a struggle to remain sane, but God is faithful! Great article!

    “We evidence our love for Christ by our loyalty and support of one another in opposition to all false worship… We must recognize and refuse to give into anything that is opposed to what Christ commands.” Amen!

  6. Bill says:

    The loneliness of the Christian results from his walk with God in an ungodly world, a walk that must often take him away from the fellowship of good Christians as well as from that of the unregenerate world. His God-given instincts cry out for companionship with others of his kind, others who can understand his longings, his aspirations, his absorption in the love of Christ; and because within his circle of friends there are so few who share his inner experiences he is forced to walk alone.

    The unsatisfied longings of the prophets for human understanding caused them to cry out in their complaint, and even our Lord Himself suffered in the same way.

    The man [or woman] who has passed on into the divine Presence in actual inner experience will not find many who understand him. He finds few who care to talk about that which is the supreme object of his interest, so he is often silent and preoccupied in the midst of noisy religious shoptalk. For this he earns the reputation of being dull and over-serious, so he is avoided and the gulf between him and society widens.

    He searches for friends upon whose garments he can detect the smell of myrrh and aloes and cassia out of the ivory palaces, and finding few or none he, like Mary of old, keeps these things in his heart.

    It is this very loneliness that throws him back upon God. His inability to find human companionship drives him to seek in God what he can find nowhere else.”

  7. Bill says:

    @Ben Davis
    I don’t believe that what the scripture means either however I have witnessed Ministers and Pastors(yes I used to go to church) basically using hebrews as church attendence scare tactics. Years ago I unfortunately did an Alpha course and Niki Gumble said the same thing. Hebrew scare tactics! Take the hot coal out of all the other coals and it will die. Basically you can’t be a Christian if you don’t go to Church was Niki’s message and Niki’s greater message is one of unity at the expense of doctrine. That is why the Alpha course is even being conducted by Roman Catholics. I can tell you today you would be hard pressed, not impossible though to find a church that has not been infected with the doctrine of Arminus, even though the creed is calvanism the pulput is Arminism.(It has surfaced in every church I have attended) and I cannot fellowship with some who thinks man is the author of his salvation. ie God chose me because he had the foresight to see that I chose him. I say with the brethren of old I choose God because He chose me and not because of anything else. Do not pity me or feel sorry for me for I am much happier and more content with reading God’s word at home than going to church. Why is Arminism so popular today? Because it appeals to the pride of men. Free will they say, I have the right to choose or not to choose. The do not like being told that it is a Sovereingn God that does the choosing. To them that is unfair.

  8. Ben Davis says:

    Many churches may be bad, but that doesn’t mean we should reject them all. There are many false teachers, many false prophecies, and many false Christs – the answer isn’t in rejecting all teaching, all prophecy, and Christ – but in maturing enough to be able to distinguish the true from the false. And that also includes being mature enough to know what differences we ought to divide over. There will always be difference, but the Biblical solution is not always division. Sometimes we should divide, other times submit. I like what Spurgeon said:

    I dare say that even in [the apostle's] days, had they criticized the church, they would have found faults in her, certainly within a few weeks there were great faults that had to be remedied; but these converts felt that the group of Christians at Jerusalem was indeed the true church of Jesus Christ, and, therefore, they joined it. All of you can find true churches of Jesus Christ if you choose to look for them. If you wait for a perfect church, you must wait until you get to heaven; and even if you could find a perfect church on earth, I am sure they would not admit you to their fellowship, for you yourself are not perfect. Find those people who are nearest to the Scriptures, who hold the truth in doctrine and in practice, and are most like the apostolic church, and then join them, and you will be blessed for it. Consider the matter, and reflect that if it would be right for you to remain out of church fellowship, it must be right for every other believer to remain in the same condition, and then there would be no visible church on earth at all, and no body of people banded together to maintain and teach Christian commands and practices. Christian fellowship, especially the celebration of the Lord’s Supper, and the maintenance of an evangelistic ministry, would become an impossibility, if no one openly declared the Savior’s cause. Act then according to your duty, and if you are a Christian, join with Christians; if you love the Master, love the servants; if you love the Captain, unite with the army, and join that regiment of it which you think adheres the closest to the Master’s word.

  9. Bill says:

    I like what Spurgeon said also:

    “The doctrine of justification itself, as preached by an Arminian, is nothing but the doctrine of salvation by works…” — C.H. Spurgeon

    This is no small error and no small heresy and as I am sure Spurgeon and any mature brother in Christ would agree an error definitely worth causing a division in the church which was indeed the case then but not now. Unity above all else is today’s mantra even at the expense of the very Gospel message itself.

  10. Bill says:

    Anyway, take care Ben. Catch up with you some day in the Kingdom.
    Bill

  11. Ben Davis says:

    But not every church in the world preaches heresy… :)

  12. Bill says:

    I am not saying that every church in the world preaches heresy, I do say however, along with Christ, John, Paul, Calvin, Spurgeon, Christopher Ness, Darby, John Gill and others is that every church that teaches the doctrine of Arminus preaches heresy.

  13. Bill says:

    I take it you are from the Arminan camp?

  14. Ben Davis says:

    Nope, not at all. Being pro-church doesn’t mean I’m pro-Arminian. And I’m not exactly sure what Arminianism has to do with this anyways – heh.

  15. mike says:

    This text of scripture is thrown at you from the pulpit to make many feel guilty if you are not going to church or even if you do go, but your inconsistent. This verse does not say that you meet weekly, or on Sundays, but when you assemble together stimulate one another to love and good deeds. We focus so much on verse 25, we ignore verse 24. We can gather in our churches, but do we stimulate each other to good deeds? Yes we may be there on Sunday, we showed up! But we did we do?

  16. Bill is one of many today that have perhaps given up on finding a true biblical church. The phenomena of the “unchurched” church is well documented and a tragedy. The fact is that a true born again believer desires to fellowship with others belonging to Christ…it’s part of our new nature in Christ…but sadly the church” organizations often are filled with folks who don’t want to speak of the Master and pray and discuss the Word, but are more interested in football and small talk and trivialities. In many circles, the push to get people into “church” has driven the true church out in a search to find others of the 7,000 who haven’t bowed the knee to Baal. As a former Pastor who was thoroughly institutionalised, I am one who has had to make the difficult decision to reject the doctrines of men and get back to the pure word of God. Unregenerate churchianity is probably the greatest hindrance to the gospel today. Just my opinion.

  17. Stubo says:

    So because Arminianism is a heresy, Bill isn’t in fellowship? That makes about the same amount of sense as not being in fellowship because Muslims deny Christ.

    Also, Hebrew 10 does imply weekly. The sabboth was weekly.

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